GrahamPerrin: Just wondering, are you some type of moderator? These answers about newer hardware could be useful to others. Therefore, I have up voted this answer. All users are some kind of moderator — that's what keeps the site working. Everyone is invited to comment, vote, suggest edits, etc. Cajunluke Jackel Jackel 41 1 1 bronze badge. Safari is a lot faster, especially with the scrolling.
I was also worried that Mountain Lion would slow up my computer, but it didn't. Nathan Nathan 1, 4 4 gold badges 14 14 silver badges 22 22 bronze badges. GrahamPerrin Um, ok. I didn't see that the OP wanted to know for the lowest end of the requirements. Maybe if the OP posted what type of hardware they have, they'd get a better answer instead of just saying the lowest end of the requirements.
I agree with Nathan the original title and question didn't really exclude newer hardware. It requested info "especially" on older hardware, but not ONLY. So I don't think the downvotes are acceptable. Chrome likes memory, lots of it. How much memory does your Air have? Royce Ruiz Royce Ruiz 31 1 1 bronze badge. JamiePatt JamiePatt 4, 2 2 gold badges 16 16 silver badges 34 34 bronze badges. Maverik 5, 6 6 gold badges 45 45 silver badges 54 54 bronze badges.
Gayle Gayle 21 1 1 bronze badge. Photoshop CS6 screams on this thing. MacBookPro2,2 Late 15'' 2. Particularly bad app example: Google Chrome is laggy as hell on On Any experiences? For now, I will downgrade from The Overflow Blog. Podcast Explaining the semiconductor shortage, and how it might end. Does ES6 make JavaScript frameworks obsolete?
Featured on Meta. Now live: A fully responsive profile. Related 4. Hot Network Questions. Quote: Quote: 6 Is it possible to set things up so there are no auto updates of any SW updates, no downloading and no notifications? I've gotten bitten, many times, by security updates that ended up including undocumented functional changes.
Since Apple like other OS vendors doesn't bother actually including detailed functional-spec release notes with a release, I never want any automatic update of anything.
I'll read up on the resolved issues, decide if they apply to me, wait a reasonable time to make sure the update does break things I need, and upgrade when convenient.
Quote: Quote: 7 Can iCloud be completely disabled no daemons, no logging onto it etc.? One of my less-common needs is to run a Windows XP VM for a medical device whose software may not work well with later Windows. Quote: Quote: 10 Have app developers in general been quick to release HS-compatible versions of apps? Thanks for that very detailed list. I do actually use a bunch of those. Oh, I did a couple of reinstalls shortly after the original upgrade from Lion to ML, the second one of them clean.
It didn't help, although things weren't as severe as now. Quote: But I would never have chosen Mountain Lion as my version of choice for a long-term installation. I didn't plan it that way After the amount of time I spent trying to get Calendar syncing with Android phones to work not very successfully… , I didn't want to devote yet more debugging time, and every major release seemed to break a lot of stuff from cursory reading.
I don't understand not doing this I do install security updates, but I like to make sure what they fix, and that they don't break anything first. With a major OS upgrade once a year, and given the issues I read after every update, it's clear Apple's QA isn't keeping up. That's encouraging, thanks. They also don't publish forward-looking plans.
Quote: Lion and Mountain Lion were when they first started porting things "back to the Mac" and, as such, represent the crudest fulfillment of that goal. In retrospect, maybe. Quote: Maybe you don't care for the "flat" aesthetic, but my God, Mountain Lion still had linen everywhere and the Rich Corinthian Leather Calendar, didn't it? Yeah, I don't like linen either what were those designers smoking? Personally, I think the By "iOS-ization" I meant more stuff like no scroll bars by default -- a violation of HIG UI discoverability, the decreasing use of color to provide information foremost and background windows are virtually undifferentiated, Finder sidebar icons all look the same unless you concentrate on them , and less info by default, despite the fact that displays are bigger and cheaper than ever.
Also, the basic concept that there has to be a realtime notification center that can't be turned off That makes sense for a device focused on realtime communications, like a phone, but I don't want to be interrupt-driven working at my desk.
Quote: Anyway, I would recommend biting the bullet and doing a clean install from the get-go, lest your troubles persist and you have to do one later anyway. Thanks, but I'll be saving a lot of time if it does work as an upgrade, so I'll try it that way first. See what I wrote re xz4gb8's comment. I'm sure I'll upgrade eventually, for the two internal drives.
Better performance potential is also nice, but again, I'm sure Apple hasn't had time to optimize it yet -- correctness would come first, and sadly, macOS isn't Apple's priority anyway, vs. Many people seem to be successful with high-quality NASes as TM destinations, after some initial configuration trial-and-error.
Hopefully, I'll have the same experience. Thinine wrote: I think it would easier for you to adjust your workflow than break the OS in a variety of ways just so you can keep doing things the way you always have.
I don't I know Apple agrees with you, however. Quote: There's a reason many of these changes have been made. Of course -- I just don't happen to think they're good ones, for me. Quote: If you have this many conditions, why don't you just use one of your variety of drives as a High Sierra test installation and see what works for you and what doesn't? I wasn't looking for guaranteed, consistent answers -- the Halting Problem essentially guarantees that's impossible. For what it's worth, I'd upgrade to El Capitan.
I've actually downgraded a few Macs from Sierra and High Sierra. In my experience, both are just really buggy. Tsur wrote: For what it's worth, I'd upgrade to El Capitan.
Could you be more specific? Which areas of the OS did you find buggy e. What severity of bugs freezes, data corruption? These things would just slow my Macs to a crawl.
Troubleshooting them was damned near impossible. The new log is seriously useless. The transition to High Sierra caused all sorts of problems for it. All three client machines initially wanted to start a new backup. That solved the problem for one of them. The other one kept asking me for new backups, most recently just last week. It finished that backup and has been quiet for a few days, which is longer than normal, so here's hoping? I see that you are a user who prefers more control, so it may not be the right option for you; rolling your own may be more your style.
I even have one Time Machine volume that dates back to on my Synology. It was transplanted over from an external hard drive, and it Just Works. A MBP may be pushing things a bit. I'd installed Sierra on a and it was pretty slow even with an SSD. Memory means a lot. I wouldn't do it without at least 8G RAM. I find High Sierra more stable than Sierra.
I have it on four machines and haven't had a single problem. Some people have had problems with bluetooth although I've definitely not found that. High Sierra is better than Sierra in that regard but still problematic. But despite some people grumbling a lot Marco on ATP it's been solid for me. Magnitudes better than the mess that is iOS These days upgrades are ridiculously solid. No need for clear installs. If you can I'd select not to install it.
But it's nothing compared to my 's SSD. Quote: 4 I don't want any of the SIP security protections, and intend to run without it enabled pretty much permanently I realize the risks, and rather not argue the point here. No idea on that. I use MacPorts and haven't had any problems.
Never use Time Machine as a primary backup. I use it a ton and love it. But it's just unreliable enough that I'd look at it more as versioning. Can't speak to VMWare but Apple put in explicit hooks to make virtualization easier. Parallels runs great. There's actually far less effect with either Sierra or High Sierra than there was with Lion and Mountain Lion in my experience.
UnRAID is also easier to retrieve data from if a drive does die. Quote: I even have one Time Machine volume that dates back to on my Synology. That's pretty good.
That is funny, I was thinking the same thing when I read the OP message. I only recently updated to But for some reason I am skipping Nothing there does it for me, or see any benefits. AFPS I believe is still 1 more version away from really being solid.
Plus waiting to see what happens when they do drop 32 bit apps. OP how you stayed with That was another version I skipped. Maybe jumping up to APFS works fine on spinning drives. Fusion drives are the only thing not supported. Thanks so much for a super ebook for upgrading to Lion. I upgraded earlier today with my iMac. I had ZERO problems due to your ebook.
And, all my third-party apps which I upgraded, as appropriate, worked fine. They've been great value and really very useful. I upgraded four Macs with no problems whatsoever after creating a boot disc as described. Where I needed to keep Snow Leopard alongside Lion, because of PPC software, I followed the instructions and once again, experienced a smooth installation.
Excellent books, and really useful advice. I successfully upgraded to Lion following your advice and guidance If I had not purchased these books I would have definitely run into trouble. I had no idea the upgrade was something that had to be handled with such a lot of preparation and thought. ISBN: Version: 1.
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